When Should a Christian Obey the Government?

3-Part Study Notes

Copyright © John Mackay 2021

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Please Note: The following publication is the rough sermon notes from Creation Research international director, John Mackay. While they have been briefly formatted in order to be used for Bible studies, they are still in rough form, and need additional work to make the most of them. A full-length book in is progress – so watch this space!

Study 1

NOT SINCE THE VIETNAM WAR HAVE I BEEN ASKED SO OFTEN ABOUT OBEDIENCE TO GOVERNMENT AUTHORITY, PARTICULARLY IN ASSOCIATION TO ISSUES OF JAB OR JOB, MANDATORY VAX, OR CAN THE GOV VACCINATE KIDS WITHOUT PARENTAL PERMISSION?  THE FOLLOWING SERMON NOTES WILL PROVE HELPFUL. ANY CRITICISMS WELCOME. AND YES, WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO TURN IT INTO BOOK FORM, SO KEEP WATCHING.

This fascinating study moves from Ancient Rome to modern Sydney, with brief asides into relevant American, European or Scottish events, as we scan thousands of years of authority issues and discover the impact of events from Adam to Abraham, and from Chaldea to Christ.

A NEEDY CONFESSION

The first time I saw the Queen’s flag flying over Edinburgh Castle I became inexplicably angry because she was at it again .. ‘In our counting house counting out Our money.’ But why did that even upset me? An Aussie of Scots heritage who grew up down under in the 50’s and 60’s asking the then popular nationalist question; ‘Am I Australian, or British ..or neither?  Was my Chauvinistic reaction to the flag thing how I a Christian should react, after all the Bible has a lot to say about ‘obeying Authorities.’   Without apology my main focus will be searching out God’s Authority throughout history and therefore how a Christian should react.

Limiting Factor: I skipped some bits, but then so did the Apostle John who wrote as the last verse of his gospel: “… there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.”

And yes the bible readings will be in KJV for a very important reason so keep watching ..its vital to the issue.

And with a Scottish name like John Mackay, I’m intrigued at how the Scots got involved to even authorise an English Bible?

FIRST A THOUGHT! TO UNDERSTAND TOMORROW VISIT YESTERDAY AND VISIT IT OFTEN. TO COMPREHEND YOUR FUTURE, LEARN FROM YOUR PAST AND LEARN WELL!

But those are not new ideas, NEARLY 2000yrs ago the apostle Paul wrote ‘ALL THESE THINGS WERE WRITTEN FOR OUR LEARNING’ (Romans 15:4)  and 1000 yrs before that the ‘Preacher’ wrote ..THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN (Ecclesiastes 1:9)

LET’S VISIT AUSTRALIA TODAY AND ASK

  • WHERE WERE AUSSIE ON THE NIGHT OF AUGUST 10, 2021?
  • AT HOME WHY?
  • THE CENSUS

WHERE WERE MARY AND JOSEPH FOR THE BIRTH OF JESUS

  • BETHLEHEM WHY?
  • SAME REASON – THE CENSUS

WHO CAME UP WITH THIS CENSUS IDEA?

  • KING SERVIS TULLIS ROME 6TH CENT BC
  • NOW LOOK AT GOD’S BIG PICTURE  2 CENTURIES EARLIER.
  •  GOD’S SALVATION PLAN MICAH 5:2 PROPHECY  8TH CENTURY BC

But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting

  • THAT WAS WRITTEN 2 CENTURIES EARLIER THAN KING SERVUS.
  • AND BETHLEHEM WAS FOUNDED 6 CENTURIES BEFORE THAT.
  • BY PAGANS – 1450 BC
  • THERE IS A GREATER SOVEREIGN KING THAN SERVUS.

NOW BACK TO AUSTRALIA TODAY

  • COVID PROTESTS MELBOURNE BNE ETC
  • ARMED POLICE THREATS, LOCKDOWNS
  • NO JOB NO JAB? FORCE VAX YOUR KIDS?
  • WHERE IS AUTHORITY TO MAKE SUCH RULES?
  • WHAT RIGHTS DO YOU HAVE AND WHERE ARE THEY FROM?
  • DO THEY OWN YOU? HOW DO YOU GET TO BE AUSTRALIAN?
  • NEVER FORGET THAT THE ORIGIN GIVES MEANING

SO LET’S GO BACK 2000 YRS ALMOST TO 43AD

  • WHEN ROMANS INVADED BRITANNIA (MODERN ENGLAND) – WHY?
  • THEY WETE  STILL MAD AT BRITS FOR HELPING THE GAULS (FRENCH)
  • FIGHT AGAINST JULIUS CAESAR (100 YRS EARLIER)   
  •  CAESAR MEANS BIG LEADER ..long memory ..
  • ‘NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN’
  • KAISER BILL VS UK AND FRENCH  ..Kaiser = Caesar
  • Czar Nicholas vs Germans WW1.. Czar = Caesar
  • WW2 NEXT BIG NAME LEADER – DAS FUHRER
  • HITLER VS DE GAUL  (AND DE ENGLISH)!
  • WAR IS SO OFTEN A FAMILY THING..
  • BACK AGAIN TO 43AD WHEN ROMANS AND UK ..WERE ALL PAGAN
  • LONDON WAS ESTABLISHED.. original name LONDINIUM
  • (MEANS  ..PLACE AT THE RIVER…TOO DEEP TO CROSS ..SAFE)
  • ROMAN CITY WAS SQ MILE  (mille = 1000 fast march STEPS)
  • WALLS AROUND LONDINIUM – SOME STILL THERE …GREAT CONCRETE

MEANWHILE ABOUT THIS SAME TIME PAUL WROTE ROMANS 13:1-2

LET EVERY SOUL BE SUBJECT UNTO THE HIGHER POWERS. FOR THERE IS NO POWER BUT OF GOD: THE POWERS THAT BE ARE ORDAINED OF GOD.

WHOSOEVER THEREFORE RESISTETH THE POWER, RESISTETH THE ORDINANCE OF GOD: AND THEY THAT RESIST SHALL RECEIVE TO THEMSELVES DAMNATION

  • (PAUL DID NOT USE KJV OF COURSE)
  • 70 YEARS AFTER PAUL WROTE ROMANS, THEY BUILT A BIG WALL ACROSS NORTH BRITANNIA TO DEAL WITH WILD TRIBES WHO EVEN STOLE THEIR BAGPIPES   (SOME OF MY ANCESTORS)
  • BUT ROMANS VENI, VIDI’D AND VICI’D – CAME SAW CONQUERED — THEN DEPARTED BETWEEN 400 AND 600AD
  • THEY LEFT FEW LATIN WORDS, SOME PLACE NAMES AND TOOK ONE SECRET WITH THEM – HOW TO MAKE GOOD CONCRETE.
  • AS ROMAN EMPIRE COLLAPSED, THE POWER VACUUM IN ROME – LED TO CHURCH TAKEOVER- ROMAN CATHOLICS ON SCENE.
  • (read up on Augustine if want to see how and why that progressed)

FORWARD 200 YEARS TO THE 800 AD’S – ANGLO SAXON KING ALFRED THE GREAT IS RULER IN KINGDOM OF WESSEX (SW OF LONDON IN ENGLAND)

  • NAME SAXON FROM SEAXE – A WEAPON.
  • ALFRED WAS OLD CATHOLIC ..WITH PAGAN NAME ..ALF-RED ..ELF WISDOM
  • ALFRED VS PAGAN DANES/VIKINGS
  • REPEATED CYCLES OF WAR AND PEACE
  • BY 878 SCORE WAS ALFRED 1, VIKINGS  0
  • PAGAN KING GUTHRUM FORCED TO CONVERT – BAPTISED
  • BY 886 ALFRED CAPTURES LONDON ..’THY KINGDOM COME! ‘
  • ALFRED’S VISON WAS A UNITED KINGDOM.
  • ALFRED WANTED TO TRAIN PEOPLE AND PRIESTS VIA HIS HERO POPE GREGORY’S PLANS
  • HIS AUTHORISED ANGLOSAXON CHRONICLES SHOW HIS HISTORY BACK TO ADAM
  • ALFRED’S CHRISTIAN DECLARATIONS FROM THE 880’S STILL EXIST IN OLD ENGLISH.
  • THEY WERE UNDENIABLY BASED ON EXODUS COMMANDMENTS
  • ALFRED’S VISION ..ANG-LAND ..BUT NO SCOTLAND
  • HIS CHOSEN AUTHORITY WAS CHRIST AS GOD
  • WHICH WOULD ULTIMATELY LEAD TO CRIES OF ‘FOR GOD FOR ENGLAND AND ST GEORGE.’
  • BIBLE WAS HIS ANGLOSAXON GUIDE, BUT FEW CHURCHES OR BUILDINGS LEFT TO SHOW AS THEY COULDN’T MAKE GOOD CONCRETE.
  • ALFRED’S DREAM OF THE UNITED KINGDOM OF ANG-LAND (ENGLAND) FINALLY ARRIVED  927AD

NOW Jump forward almost 150 yrs or so

  • 1066 AND ALL THAT.
  • THE COUSINS INVADE .. (were asked of course …politics then also)
  • Normans were North Men ..Norse …Vikings but Christianised
  • INVASION WAS TO PROTECT THEIR HERITAGE
  • BUT HOW TO RULE LONDON? 
  • THAT ‘GOLDEN’ SQUARE MILE – POWER IS WEALTH
  •  ..EVEN ROYALTY REQUIRES KEYS TO ENTER CITY
  • NORMANS ALSO brought secret of concrete back via Deutsch workers  (lim-stone Lim old word for glue hence limestone)
  • NORMANS COVERED COUNTRY WITH CHURCH TOWERS
  • CRENULATED – DEFENCE ..FOR CONTROL
  • CHURCH/CHRISTIANITY WAS A TAG ON IN PASSING.
  • BY END OF 1100’S -TAX TROUBLE AGAIN REBELLION 
  • EVIL KING JOHN – –   BROTHER OF KING RICHARD LIONHEART 
  • REMEMBER ROBIN WHATS-HIS-NAME ??   AND SHERRIFF OF WHERE??
  • AND WHAT FOREST WAS THAT? 
  • YES OLD ROBBO’S TREE IS STILL THERE! I’VE BEEN TO IT!

SOLUTION – A BROKE KING JOHN WAS HUMBLED 15 JUNE 1215

  • MAGNA CARTA …LIBERTUM
  • AT RUNNYMEAD (WATER MEADOW)
  • NEAR ROMAN RIVER CROSSING OF STAINES – ROMAN FOR STONE
  • MY  COUSIN MICHAEL LIVED THERE.
  •  SOME 20 MILES WEST OF LONDON 
  • MCL WAS WRITTEN BY ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY STEPHAN LANGTON
  •  WAS KNIGHTS/BARONS VS KING ..POWER WEALTH STRUGGLE
  • ABOUT  KING’S FUNDING, AND A FAIR KNIGHTS WORK. 
  • BAD KING JOHN .. BACKED BY POPE INNOCENT 3RD
  • BASIS OF KINGS POWER?
  • ‘VIS ET VOLUNTAS – FORCE AND WILL
  •  VS
  • KNIGHTS ‘FOR CHURCH AND REALM’ (GOD IS OUR STRENGTH)
  • SIGNATORIES
  • 9 BISHOPS AND ARCHBISHOPS
  • PAPAL DELEGATE,
  • KNIGHTS TEMPLAR, KNIGHTS OF LAND
  • (LASTED JUNE 1215 – AUGUST 1215)
  •  POPE ‘NOT SO INNOCENT’ THE 3RD ANNULLED IT
  • MODIFIED AND REISSUED 1216
  • REISSUED AGAIN AFTER WAR OF 1217 JOHN needed more MONEY
  • DITTO 1225 – CASH needed by HENRY 3RD (SON OF JOHN)
  • DITTO 1297 EDWARD 1 ..MONEY ..BUT NOW made LAW OF THE LAND
  • VITAL CHANGE! – USED NOW TO ARGUE AGAINST DIVINE RIGHT OF KINGS.
  • AN ORIGINAL COPY OF 1297 DOC IS PRIVATELY OWNED IN AUSTRALIA
  • YET WE SCOTS STILL DON’T RATE A MENTION!

SO WHAT ABOUT REBELING ARCHBISHOP AND  ….ROMANS 13:1-2

LET EVERY SOUL BE SUBJECT UNTO THE HIGHER POWERS. FOR THERE IS NO POWER BUT OF GOD: THE POWERS THAT BE ARE ORDAINED OF GOD. WHOSOEVER THEREFORE RESISTETH THE POWER, RESISTETH THE ORDINANCE OF GOD: AND THEY THAT RESIST SHALL RECEIVE TO THEMSELVES DAMNATION

  • WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH 2021 JAB OR JAB, BIDENS POWER, CANADAS CLAMP DOWNS, ANNAS RULES LOCKDOWNS ETC… AND CAN A CHRISTIAN TODAY IGNORE OR DISOBEY GOVT RULES?
  • IF SO WHEN WHY HOW?

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HYMN BREAK

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JUMP FORWARD 470 YRS T0 AUSTRALIA

  • ENGLISH CAPTAIN JAMES COOK LANDS ON A BEACH, CLIMBS TO HIGHEST POINT ON ‘POSSESSION ISLAND’, WAVES A FLAG, AND CLAIMS EAST COAST FOR KING AND LEAVES.
  • HIS BASIC RULE .. ‘VIS ET VOLUNTAS’  – FORCE AND WILL
  • WHERE AUTHORISED FROM? BRITISH KING BUT
  • ULTIMATELY WENT BACK TO THE POPE WHO DIVIDED WORLD UP
  • IN RETURN FOR KINGS SUPPORTING THE POPE CENTURIES BEFORE                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  

BUT WHAT ABOUT ABORIGINALS DID THEY OWN LAND?

  • DID THE ENGLISH INVADE?
  • IF ABORIGINALS WERE THERE FIRST- DID THAT MEAN THEY OWNED IT?
  • BUT CHECK ABRAHAM AND CANAANITES
  • THIS IS NOT A RULE FOUND IN BIBLE ..
  • RELEVANT SIDETRACK TO USA REBELLION.
  • BOSTON TEA PARTY – TEA VS TAX
  •  GEORGE 3 VS GEORGE W. 1775 – 83
  • KING VS COUNTRY
  • REBELLION AGAINST BASIS OF KINGS POWER TO TAX
  • ..’VIS ET VOLUNTAS’ – FORCE AND WILL VS FUND WE WONT
  • USA CONCLUSION .. THE POWER TO TAX IS THE POWER TO DESTROY
  • USA REBELLION BASIS BACK TO MAGNA CARTA AGAIN.
  • THEIR FINAL CONSTITUTION WOULD LIMIT KINGS TO 4 YEARS
  • AND THEIR KINGS WOULD ULTIMATELY  NEED TO POSSESS GREAT WEALTH

NOW Jump forward 150 years

  • (ABSOLUTE POWER?) BIDEN EXECUTIVE RULES ON JAB??
  • NOW TO OZ.
  • MENZIES WW2 1939 DECLARES WAR – BY QUOTING  BIBLE

‘BITTER AS WE ALL FEEL AT THIS WANTON CRIME, THIS IS NOT A MOMENT FOR RHETORIC. PROMPT AS THE ACTION OF MANY THOUSANDS MUST BE, IT IS FOR THE REST A MOMENT FOR QUIET THINKING, FOR THAT CALM FORTITUDE THAT RESTS NOT UPON THE BEATING OF DRUMS BUT UPON THE UNCONQUERABLE SPIRIT OF MAN CREATED BY GOD IN HIS OWN IMAGE.

….  AT IN SPITE OF THE EMOTIONS WE ARE ALL FEELING, YOU WILL SHOW THAT AUSTRALIA IS READY TO SEE IT THROUGH. MAY GOD IN HIS MERCY AND COMPASSION GRANT THAT THE WORLD MAY SOON BE DELIVERED FROM THIS AGONY.’

  • MENZIES  WAS PRESBYTERIAN .. CHN WORLD VIEW ..CLERGYMAN  FATHER
  • MENZIES HELD ALFRED’S VIEW – MAN BACK TO ADAM BACK TO GOD.
  • ALL POWER COMES FROM ABOVE AND IS ACCOUNTABLE TO GOD ABOVE
  • BUT HITLERS PAGAN NAZI EVOLUTIONIST BASIS WAS KILL OR BE??
  • MENZIES GENESIS 9:6 ALSO ..HITLER CANT MURDER INNOCENTS.
  • SO WHY IS SCO MO SO QUIET ABOUT CHRISTIAN THINGS?

Jump forward 50 yrs after Menzies…

  • TO JUSTICE MURPHY (HIGH COURT 1975 – 1986)
  • AND GARETH EDWARDS ..AG – 1983-84  THE DE CHRISTIANISING OF OZ.
  • NOW NO  RIGHTS BASED ON BIBLE, CHURCH OR GOD
  • NOT BACK TO ADAM ..BACK TO APES
  • NOW EVOLUTION IN SCHOOLS
  • RESULTS IN PRO ABORTION POPULATION ..ITS MY BODY  ATTITUDE
  • WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT? ..CR WAS FORMED AT THIS TIME …
  • WHAT ABOUT ABORIGINES NOW?
  • WHAT RIGHTS THEY HAVE??  WHERE COME FROM??
  • EVOLUTIONARY CLAIM BEEN HERE FOR 70,000 YRS
  • NOW LEGAL RULE IS FIRST IN BEST DRESSED ..SO LAND IS ABORIGINAL

SO AT JURASSIC ARK…‘WE ACKNOWLEDGE TRADITIONAL OWNERS

  •  ..FATHER SON AND HOLY SPIRIT. ‘
  • BECAUSE ‘FIRST HERE’ IS NOT A LEGAL PRINCIPAL GOD ACCEPTS
  • SEE DETAILS ABRAHAM AND CANAANITES, THEN ISRAEL ETC..
  • PEACE WITH EACH OTHER COMES ONLY FROM PEACE WITH THE CREATOR GOD FIRST…
  • FIRST STEP TO REAL PEACE SOLUTION –  Go into all the world…
  • MATT 28:18-20

AND JESUS CAME AND SPAKE UNTO THEM, SAYING, ALL POWER IS GIVEN UNTO ME IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH.

GO YE THEREFORE, AND TEACH ALL NATIONS, BAPTIZING THEM IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, AND OF THE SON, AND OF THE HOLY GHOST:

TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THINGS WHATSOEVER I HAVE COMMANDED YOU: AND, LO, I AM WITH YOU ALWAY, EVEN UNTO THE END OF THE WORLD.

CHALLENGE QUESTIONS

  • WHO TOLD TO GO?
  • WHO HAS TO BAPTISE?
  • WHO ORDERED TO TEACH?
  • THE ANSWER IS WE HAVE BEEN AUTHORISED AND GIVEN DOMINION.
  • SO WILL YOU DO IT …NOW? 

NEVER FORGET   

  • DON’T HOLD TIGHTLY TO THE THINGS OF THIS WORLD.
  • HOLD THEM LIGHTLY SO YOU CAN EASILY LET THEM GO!
  • THE FIELDS ARE WHITE READY TO HARVEST
  • DON’T LEAVE IT TO LATE TO REAP?? 
  • YOUR CAREER WEALTH REPUTATION HAVE LITTLE ETERNAL VALUE!
  • COMPARED TO THE SALVATION OF EVEN ONE SOUL
  • ONLY JESUS CAN SAVE …BUT WE MUST GO!
  • WERE AUTHORISED AND ORDERED!

REMINDER –

  • THE BIBLE QUOTES HAVE BEEN FROM THE A.V. – THE KING JAMES BIBLE. IT IS DELIBERATE. BUT KING JAMES WAS A SCOTSMAN, SO HOW DID THE SCOTS FINALLY GET A LOOK IN AND WHAT ONE ENGLISH WORD DID A SCOTTISH KING FREEZE AND HOW DO THE ACTIONS OF A LONG DEAD KING AFFECT DOMINION, AUTHORITY AND POWER?